Peter Fend/Steve Kaplan write:
To get back to the original chimp
joke, Alexander Pope did not have a
monkey on his back. He had a hump.
He was a cripple, but so was FDR,
and Tamburlaine, and so is Steven Hawking.
Maybe cripples are thinking more about
what's essential to know, given that
survival is a more conscious act.
You're right. Any monotheistic religion worth a farthing should have a bomb. What God would leave His people defenseless in an age of deterrence/detente?
My point was, the quest to know God, being conducted
by essentially stupid creatures, leads to stupid
outcomes, like the mineral-fuel, nuclear-waste world
in which we cannot possibly long live.
It's not that Einstein wanted a Zionist revenge
(although there is some evidence that he did)
but that he presumed that attempting to know the
universe is necessarily good because the universe
is necessarily coherent and whole, under one order.
Therefore, if one has a knowledge great enough to
build a super-weapon, that knowledge must be good,
for the knowledge is part of the universe that is
coherent and whole, under one order. Enforcing the
one order with the super-weapon is reasonable.
Good will overcome evil, even if the super-weapon
destroys us in the process.
Catholicism was started by a Roman tax collector. All subsequent problems follow from that.
How did this action influence Einstein to try reaching Godhead?
Anyhow, what are you saying? That getting Roosevelt to build the bomb was part of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? If so, why didn't they drop it in the middle of Berlin, right on Adolf's bunker?
I am saying that the letter to Roosevelt was prompted
by some desire to right the wrongs done by Hitler.
And I note that nothing could have been dropped on
Berlin for many reasons. (1) the bomb was not
ready in Spring 1945. (2) the US wanted too much
intellectual capital from Germany to want to try
distancing itself from Germany with a nuclear bomb,
even if that were possible (3) the Russians were
already in Berlin, or close enough, so that the bomb
in Berlin would be an attack on the Russians (4)
the priority, in any case, was to stop the Russians,
not punish the Germans, or even the Japanese.
Ocean Earth wrote:
>Einstein, as I visually recall from documents published
>in books, made a point of writing a letter to Franklin
>Delano Roosevelt exhorting him to build the nuclear
>bomb.
>
>Einstein knew what he was doing, in seeking to build a
>super-weapon.
>
>He could have told Roosevelt that some people back in
>the old country, in Germany, were working on such a
>super-weapon, and that it ought to be stopped, as occurred
>anyway with the sabotage of facilities in Norway and
>the curious reluctance of Heisenberg to move forward.
>
>He could have told Roosevelt that no such super-weapon
>should exist.
>
>But he did not.
>
>Acting on behalf of a certain group of people, he pushed
>for Roosevelt to use his colossal power, as President
>of the United States, to build a weapon against another
>group of people. Ironically, that group of people
>turned out to be the Russians. Yeah, yeah, the weapon
>was used on Japanese civilians, but it was used in
>order to block Russian incursions into the area. (The
>same goes for the 1945 fire-bombing of Dresden and
>Hamburg: that was a scorched-earth strategy against
>the Russians, to deny them viable holdings, either
>for an east-Europe capital in Dresden or for a high-
>seas port in Hamburg; the fire was intended to destroy
>administrative files more than people.)
>
>Anyway, Einstein was no innocent.
>
>At this point, I see every monotheistic religion
>having a Bomb, as a result of the monotheistic mind
>set in Einstein and his quest for divine power.
>
>There is an Islam bomb, Jewish bomb, Anglican Bomb,
>anti-clerical Catholic (i.e., voila, la France) bomb,
>Eastern Orthodox Bomb, Confucian bomb, Hindu bomb,
>born-again Christian bomb (ours). The absolutism
>inherent in monotheism leads to annihilatory aims.
>
>Alexander Pope referred to this problem, I think,
>with his phrase, "Ask not the ways of God to scan,
>the first task of mankind is Man." That is, let's
>take care of our existence on this planet, and stop
>fooling around trying to figure out the mysteries
>of a unified, single-god universe.
>
>Peter
Peter, we seem to have lost the call and response sequence.
I already deleted our dialogue from my e-mail, but our duoblog, if that's what it's being called, started with my e-mail to you: "Intelligent Design" vs. The Theory of Evolution. Essentially a chimp joke with Bush as the monkey's uncle, belying his administration's lip service to "ID". You came back with Einstein vs. Hitler. At some point I sent you a dirty limerick about John Milton and Paradise Lost/Regained.
In the post above, W posted these words as yours. They are, in fact, mine:
To get back to the original chimp joke, Alexander Pope did not have a monkey on his back. He had a hump.
You're right. Any monotheistic religion worth a farthing should have a bomb. What God would leave His people defenseless in an age of deterrence/detente?
Catholicism was started by a Roman tax collector. All subsequent problems follow from that.
Anyhow, what are you saying? That getting Roosevelt to build the bomb was part of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? If so, why didn't they drop it in the middle of Berlin, right on Adolf's bunker?